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[finalizes]

The mage who sired Casper is here.

He needs to die. And when he returns from the floor die again, as often as need be.

Don't engage him, just kill him. Don't let him talk or do anything, don't try to reason or ask him questions. Alert the pack when you find and attempt to kill him so you'll get back-up.

Be careful. He's a powerful mage and they are unpredictable and can alter anything. You never know what they may or may not be able to do.


[A short while after the feed was made, a full-sensory memory of what Casper's father looks, smells and sounds like is amended to it.]

Comments

[chalicejoker]

...that bad, huh?

[finalizes]

Yeah.

[He sounds very factual. In this one case, Hajime's reaction to almost everything is the correct response. Aside from the trying to fight alone part.]

If you encounter him, call in the pack. Mages are hard to predict and no matter how strong you are he might have something up your sleeve that you can't counter without the element of surprise.

[chalicejoker]

Look, worst-case scenario, I'm pretty apocalyptic myself.

[finalizes]

[Well, according to his original alpha's mother...]

He might be interested in triggering you then.

[chalicejoker]

Wouldn't be the first time someone's tried.

[finalizes]

Don't let him do it. Call the pack if you think that it might happen.

We're here for stability, too. [And that is perhaps more important than the current situation is.]

[chalicejoker]

I don't know that I'm ever going to get used to that, calling people for a fight...

[Grump, grump, grump...]

[finalizes]

Pack isn't just people. Pack is a part of you, like you are a part of it.

You are calling a part of yourself.

[chalicejoker]

It's not that easy for a guy like me to think of it that way.

[finalizes]

I know.

But it will get easier if you keep trying.

[professorwolf]

[Lyall's voice is alarmed when he replies.]

No. Absolutely not. No one should be going in the Floor. If this person is dangerous, we lock him in a room with no doors and find someone who can lock portals down. We knock him out and tie him up.

We are not murderers.

[chalicejoker]

We could always just beat him unconscious.

[professorwolf]

As long as we're not going out intentionally to murder someone.

[chalicejoker]

There are worse alternatives than murder.

[Says the guy with fragmented memories of being sealed inside a playing card for ten thousand years.]

[professorwolf]

Agreed, there can be. I still do not want us to murder anyone. That's what wild and uncivilized packs do, not any pack I lead.

[chalicejoker]

So I'll just beat him into unconsciousness, then.

[finalizes]

He is a mage. He will be able to get out of anything.

[He sounds very, very certain of this.]

He needs to be dead and rendered incapable of action as much as possible.

[professorwolf]

I do not bloody care how powerful he supposedly is. We are not going to kill anyone. No one is able to get out of "anything", there will be at least one way and probably more to incapacitate this person without killing them.

[finalizes]

And how many people will get hurt while we try to find the one way that he cannot get out of?

[professorwolf]

Laughs, you could make the exact same argument against killing him, if he's so powerful that there's no way to contain him. There could be no way to kill him, either, and trying will only make him kill you, and everyone around you.

But I don't believe he's that powerful, and I do believe there are more than enough people in liminal space that we can stop him. If all else fails, I am a witch, and a very powerful one. Maybe I can bind him up with elementals or something.

[finalizes]

The only chance that we werewolves have against mages is to kill them faster than they can do their magic!

[It's the same as with vampires. If you let them talk at you every passing second raises your chances of somehow losing the encounter.]

[professorwolf]

Most of us have our own magic here, Laughs, we're not limited to biting and scratching. And liminal space is not your world, there are rules here he doesn't know about that can probably counter some of the things he can do.

[finalizes]

You're telling the pack to stand down?

[professorwolf]

You appear to be the only one I need to tell, but yes, I am. If he finds Casper and attempts to hurt him, or you, then you may do what you need to, but we are not to attack anyone unprovoked.

I will be happy to help you protect Casper, if the need arises.

[finalizes]

[There is no response, but Laughs won't argue further, either.

Instead, he goes to find Casper.

He is not sure how to deal with this response from the pack members - all of them, not just Lyall - and will have to think on it for a while before reacting to them, if he does at all.]

[vorenado]

There are many of us here who could very well be more powerful. Unprovoked murder may draw repercussions from the Arcana.

[finalizes]

[He had really hoped for support from his pack. Instead he's being held up.

This is all very unfortunate and unpleasant.]

It's not unprovoked.

Do you want to wait until he provokes it in Liminal?

[vorenado]

We have no right or reason to take any action unless he provokes it, and out response must reflect that offense. If this was The Junkyard and he proved himself a threat, then he would be devoured, but this is not The Junkyard, nor is this your world. We must adjust our behavior.

[finalizes]

I already adjusted my behaviour.

[He sounds as annoyed as he feels right now. Can't they see how much he already adjusted his behaviour? And that this might perhaps be different yet again?]

But we also have to readjust it when necessary.

[vorenado]

Unfortunately, when something like this occurs it's not just you or the pack's decision. What we do will affect the whole of liminal space and if something goes wrong than we will be the ones who are held accountable for acting out of turn, especially if we act on words alone. Preemptive strikes are not an option we have at our disposal, even if they are warranted as you say.

[finalizes]

It is a decision the pack makes.

Even if the decision is based around certain rules and other people's opinions, it is still a decision.

[set_your_watches_for_fun]

I rather think not, darling.

What's gotten you so riled up?

[finalizes]

[He's more or less given up on trying to get the pack in on this. Lyall has been more than clear. So instead he switches to warning.]

He is dangerous and malicious. [Two things that don't necessarily are the same, but in this case they meet.] Stay away from him if you can.