And the greatest of these is love. [CW religion]

[otomechapilot]

So...

That world wasn't my Purgatory or my Hell, which is probably why I'm not freaking out about being a fallen angel at the end. They certainly aren't my angels or my God. First rule of Travelling, right?

But that also means I... don't know enough about what everyone here has faith in. Or not. Or why.

And it's uh, private, I know, for a lot of people. It is for me. So these can be... locked down or in person discussions, if you want. But I feel like it's worth knowing.




This definitely means I need to talk to you too. About... things I didn't want to talk about before. In person.

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[desperate_times_right]

What the hell happened over there?

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[youandyoualone]

I am not quite fit company at the moment [since he's stuck telling the truth until the vino veritas wears off] but if you wish to see me, I will be in Helena's parlor and we can adjourn from there.

[otomechapilot]

Heaven, hell, and souls in Limbo having a big argument over the next prince of a market town in Purgatory.

I was an angel, until I fell halfway, to a half-and-half kind of spirit called a Sithen. Cause Heaven in that world isn’t nice to its own angels.

[noonesblessing]

I know two gods exists in our world, but I don't really like them.

[crouching_sin]

[There's just hysterical laughter for a minute.]

I'm literally Cain. God exists, and He's a tyrant and an incredibly cruel being who will destroy someone's life over anything. The older gods that one thinks of are now demons, having been cast down by Him.

[leftbehindagain]

I mean, 'defeated a god in combat' is probably not what you're after, but on the off chance it is, you know where to find me.

[desperate_times_right]

Jesus. Sounds like we got the better end of that one.

[wholeheaded]

My culture's pretty...irreligious, I guess. Or maybe we're not far enough removed from our would-be mythological figures for them to be like. All-powerful skypeople or whatever is supposed to happen? It makes sense I was a Sithen, basically.

You can come over and we can play Scrabble and talk about Oz history, basically, if you want. General "you" for folks listening in, by the by.

[acapriciousthing]

There are a lot of gods in my universe. I'm older than all of them, but belief is a powerful force.

Somehow that Jaunt was less of a headache than when Hell came up for grabs back home.

[tookashirototheknee]

To be honest, I don't know.

My world at home, especially my particular portion of the world tends to... well, I guess you could call it 'worship science'. I've never put much thought to it other than 'uh, dudes, unless Heaven is WAY UP THERE, you're making reality out of metaphors.'

But then I met some other cultures of people whose faith in deities make my faith in science look like doubt. So I don't know. I don't know if different planets have different gods, if some of it is myth, and some of it is truth, or what. Sometimes I wish I could have the kind of faith others do.

[A bit too much truth wine there, Matt.]

[awondrousplace]

That is an interesting question, and one that my world has a... dubious answer to, darling.

I work with objects of great emotional power. I have been swayed by a shawl claiming to be Demeter's, I have seen a comb that supposedly belonged to Izanami, a Japanese goddess, and two statues of Greek deities that created great havoc when in the same building, not to mention about a hundred crosses' worth of shards claiming to be from Jesus' True Cross. And don't get me started on the nails.

However, there's a wrinkle. The only people who know for certain whether or not these are actual objects belonging to actual deities... aren't talking. It is just as likely that the power of believe surrounding these objects created their power.

So, what I'm meaning to say is that I have faith in people. Much much less than I used to, but I believe people can create their own realities of life.

[duelingbanjou]

Gods don't exist. Shit with a lot of power? Yeah. But gods don't. If they did, they would've shown up when their people needed them. Grew up going to a temple or two around New Year's, but it was all bullshit.

Into action, probably CW child abuse/neglect later

[otomechapilot]

She comes later into Helena's parlor, after she thinks the edge of the vino is off, bringing with her a bottle of elderflower and lemon.

"I thought," she says, "you might want something sweet that wasn't boozy. Or truthy," she adds. "Also got my hangover cure decanted, cause a lot of people will need it."

[otomechapilot]

That seems unfortunately common. Having gods not worth worshipping, I mean.

Psi protect II forever

[otomechapilot]

[She almost doesn't reply, before catching herself, calming herself. Thinking about this, in light of Rule One.]

...in your world. And Justice apparently agrees, at least enough to think you're Just enough for her.

I'm sorry.

[otomechapilot]

I'm sorry when what went up for grabs?

[otomechapilot]

Faith in people... it's hard not for me to have faith in people. To see the hand of God as people wanting to be good to each other - not in it, as it. Ever heard the one about the drowning man?

I'd say you're from a world with much more magic than mine, but what about the ANIMa?

[otomechapilot]

So sort of the Achaean experience of Godhood.

[Nike and Athena aside, she was not impressed with the pantheon of Achaea. Or the Titans.]

[otomechapilot]

Where did you end up, anyway?

[otomechapilot]

I've been getting a lot of that, yeah. See you there?

[otomechapilot]

...I suppose when you can chat with, uh, every Thor Sif and Loki at the dinner table it takes the edge off of being pious.

Oz, huh? Let me know if I should bring anything to the Scrabble session.

[crouching_sin]

She does. But that doesn't mean I'm not also on my own side. I've made that very clear.

... Well. He'll be dead, sooner or later. I have a curse to break that requires it.

[otomechapilot]

I always thought of God as working through the best of humanity. Or Alteans, I guess. But if there's real history behind the Gods in your wo-universe...

[duelingbanjou]

I have no idea what that means.

[otomechapilot]

All of us are on our own side. I just think we're way better off being on each other's side too.

Keeping in mind in Justice's case the ways in which she's more like an idea than a person.