Important Questions

[dino_zarf]

[The feed, of course, includes the totally mandatory that's why he does it footage of Rose running around on the walls playing with a troll Pogemon plush]

Okay. The baby can do this whole redefining gravity thing outside of Liminal Space too now. She can teleport. She can talk to Infiltrators in their heads.

So what I need to know is... what else do we know people can do with Liminal space or the network that I should be worried about?

And if anyone has brilliant ideas as to what to do about it, I'm all ears. Or direct psychic connection, if we want to get technical.

Comments

[breakaleginhalf]

Holy sh-- goddamn. Rose is like, the uber baby.

[dino_zarf]

She's amazing.

Vaguely terrifying to parent, but amazing.

[He can brag and freak out at the same time. He's a good multitasker.]

[breakaleginhalf]

Forget Emperor, I think you're pretty much the dadliest dad here, having to keep tabs on the multiverse's most intense kid.

[dino_zarf]

That sounds like it belongs on a mug.

[breakaleginhalf]

'Number one interdimensional space dad'.

[dino_zarf]

And to think I used to worry about whether I could handle being a regular space dad.

[psychic protection II forever]

[comebewe]

You need to be worried if she ever learns to pull energy from liminal space. It's safe enough once you know what you're doing, but you can singe yourself a little when you're trying to learn it.

But that's not what you have to worry about; the problem is if she ever moves beyond that, and weaponises it.

Re: [psychic protection II forever]

[dino_zarf]

[There's an impressively colourful string of Mandarin profanity that needs to go far beyond what is available in the handy dandy PDF of colourful Mandarin profanity]

It can be weaponized?

[comebewe]

Electricity is dangerous. All it takes is introducing it into a living creature.

[dino_zarf]

[When he puts it that way, of course it can]

That is the last thing we need.

[comebewe]

Sorry.

[he pauses for a moment]

Maybe you'll be lucky, and she won't learn it?

[dino_zarf]

Apparently I need to find a countermeasure.

[He's in an arms race. He's losing.]

[comebewe]

[There's a long pause, before Matthew replies]

You...may be able to learn how to interfere with, or disrupt, her ability to manipulate liminal space. Sabetha talked about it once, remember? And we have...wondered a little, recently, about how such a thing might be done.

[dino_zarf]

Yeah... I probably should have gotten more detail while she was around.

[But who can predict who will disappear here?]

I've been picking up everything I can on both sides, so I'm up to giving it a shot.

[comebewe]

Okay. So...I was talking to Minako the other day, and she had this thought, that you could take other people with you across the jaunt divide by 'unhooking' them. It didn't seem quite right to us, at least for that particular purpose, but...it did occur to me that that might be a good way to cut someone off from affecting liminal space alltogether. But we have not yet worked out, logistically, how one might do such a thing.

[dino_zarf]

I know how to do it from the network. That's almost like... well, unplugging an old network cable. That built off being able to poke around a lot though, so I'm not sure what's the equivalent for liminal space.

[comebewe]

Perhaps we are...missing something. Some intermediary step, some smaller scale ability, which one needs to know first.

[dino_zarf]

There could be... there seemed to be a lot, to be able to do it with the network. Building off blocking portals doesn't seem quite right though...

[comebewe]

Perhaps blocking off portals or some other ability isn't the right step. Perhaps what we need is more...a disruption, an interruption. A temporary jolt that's just enough to break someone's connection to liminal space for a moment.

[dino_zarf]

[Hmm....]

Like stopping one thing instead of cutting them off from Liminal Space completely.

[comebewe]

Yes. That might work...

[dino_zarf]

Something like... taking that fifth sort of wall to prevent portals. But making it a lot more solid.

[Liminal space is hard to get your head around sometimes]

[comebewe]

[Well, that's an interesting way of thinking about locking down portals. It's not how Matthew does it - he regards it more as blocking up the cracks in the universes - but it makes sense]

We were thinking of it as more like kicking someone in the shins, so that they lose their concentration and possibly fall over.

[dino_zarf]

And then they can't do whatever it is they really shouldn't be doing right now.

[comebewe]

Yup.

[private]// psychic protection ii

[neverfeltthatway]

There's... a lot, to be honest. But some I'd be more worried about than others.

If she ever learns infiltrator persona, she could be herself in a jaunt when you're infiltrating. So crawling on the ceiling and talking in your head while you have no idea what's going on. Infiltrator mind trick could be useful in not drawing attention to herself - but it could be even more dangerous when combined with infiltrator persona, if she uses it on you to get away with something without you even realizing.

Dream communication isn't dangerous per se, but it might threaten your ability to get a good night's rest, if she starts talking to you even when she's asleep. Memory immersion is potentially worrisome, the ability to throw an investigator into an infiltrating role. With psychic interference, she could start to edit what other people's posts to the network.

With sensory deprivation, she could shut off one of her or someone else's senses. Maybe she shuts off your sense of sight while you're playing hide and seek to give herself an edge, and forgets to restore it. Maybe she turns off her own sense of pain, when she realizes she can, and injures herself without having it to warn her. Or she shuts off her sense of heat or cold, getting burned or frostbite because she's stopped her body from telling her what's happening.

And with partition mind... She could begin to mess with her own or even someone else's memories or abilities. I can't even begin to describe the potential dangers there.

...I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't tell everyone I have all of these.

[dino_zarf]

That... is a lot.

[That is terrifying actually]

Some of those... the fact that they're even possible is worrying. But if she learns them...

[neverfeltthatway]

Most of the more frightening ones don't seem like the sort of skill she'd gravitate toward on her own? But I agree, they're frightening to think of in anyone's hands, much less hers.

[dino_zarf]

She could be... pretty close to being able to do the only sort of infiltrating thing. She knew about the world during the last one.

[neverfeltthatway]

...I'm guessing she's never turned an investigator into an infiltrator before?