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Ogura Sio ([personal profile] moredakka) wrote in [community profile] synopsychic2014-05-11 09:45 pm

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[Sup Investigators. Have some spazflail in your brains.]

Ogura Sio, reporting!!

There are dragons. They kill people. There's a force that fights them coming from someplace called Flamegard but they lose a third of their people every year because they haven't even got cannons. Can, can we give them cannons? I know we're supposed to blend in b-but - but! What if it's our mission?
notinthecards: (i make this look good)

[personal profile] notinthecards 2014-05-11 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
First things first, I'd say. Do we know how to build cannons? Because I think there's probably more to it than an iron tube and some gunpowder.
hakodate: in a beer garden. be proud. (btw i'm currently writing a paper)

[personal profile] hakodate 2014-05-12 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
You change a lot more about the balance of power than just controlling the wildlife when you introduce guns to a society.
superieure: (♛ 037)

[personal profile] superieure 2014-05-12 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I concur. Did anyone mention defeating one with a sword or a lance? Or catapults?
feminitis: (018)

[personal profile] feminitis 2014-05-12 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
[...dragons. Holy shit, dragons. She's only ever heard of them in myths. They're real here? Where is Okita-sensei when she needs him...]

Would cannons even help? Wouldn't the dragons just... fly away? How does someone even fight dragons, anyway?
senseandcecilbility: (what is my life)

[personal profile] senseandcecilbility 2014-05-12 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
[Where is Saint George when one needs him?]

If the natives start consuming their eggs, they will become extinct in a few decades.

[And there will be less cannons and more omelets for all.]
Edited 2014-05-12 08:49 (UTC)
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[personal profile] howexciting 2014-05-12 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
[Leonardo can't help butting in for the first time since he learned about the network.]

Actually, there is not much more required to build a cannon. You need two trunnions to attach it to a movable base, and an opening to insert a fuse. Then you need a shot and some gunpowder. It is a lot simpler than most seem to realize.

... but is it wise? Do we know anything about these dragons? How big are they, where do they live, and what do they really want? Humans are not easy prey. They could just as easily go after cattle.
senseandcecilbility: (so confused)

[personal profile] senseandcecilbility 2014-05-12 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
[...Says the young lady who proposed cannons.]

Indeed. That is why one must abscond with them.

[Isn't that what humans have been doing since they got kicked out of Eden? Stealing eggs?]
senseandcecilbility: (He made their tiny wings)

[personal profile] senseandcecilbility 2014-05-12 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
[If only she were around when they were fighting the Spanish Armada!]

Well, if they are that big, tracking them should not be particularly challenging. In truth, big dragons most likely lay proportionally big eggs. Protein for the whole family!
Edited 2014-05-12 14:18 (UTC)
notinthecards: (Default)

[personal profile] notinthecards 2014-05-12 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well. That makes two of you that do. Next question, how long does something like that take?
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[personal profile] notinthecards 2014-05-12 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Not yet. But it's good to make plans and precautions, no? Maybe Remy would be all right facing down a dragon with nothing but a stick and a deck of cards. But most of us probably rather have some fire support, I think.
feminitis: (why are boys so dumb)

[personal profile] feminitis 2014-05-12 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen cannons. [Granted, they're cannons that by modern standards could be described as "old as balls," but...!] They're really powerful but really bulky and slow. By the time you got one in place to shoot the dragon...

[She frowns, thinking it over.]

...oh... but if you got it in place and the lured the dragon out to where it was set up, maybe you could compensate for the slowness and the dragon's flight that way...
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[personal profile] canbebrave 2014-05-12 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
If these dragons are like those that once roamed my land, what Sio says is very possible. Dragons do not follow the rules of humanity- to them, we are the cattle.
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[personal profile] capital_asset 2014-05-13 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Have they shown the ability or inclination to communicate outside of their own species at all?
hakodate: whoever it was sent "fuck you, you're adopted" to half the people on my contact list. (who had my phone last night?)

[personal profile] hakodate 2014-05-13 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Here's the thing. Especially after what I hear people saying about the state of the throne here, I'm not convinced that any fighting that happens here is only going to stay contained to dragons. Giving people firearms is going to give someone a massive advantage. I've seen what happens when you try to take on artillery with swords and spears and it's pretty fucking ugly.

Depending on what we need to accomplish here, that might be something that's useful to us. But it's not something we want to do lightly, or without recognizing what we might set off with it.
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[personal profile] superieure 2014-05-13 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
We don't yet know that a gun would be any more useful, and would be introducing an irremovable new factor at high risk and likely low reward.

Have you heard of anyone who's fought and killed a dragon successfully?
senseandcecilbility: (I have sinned)

[personal profile] senseandcecilbility 2014-05-13 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
[It was very intense!]

Couldn't we merely roll them out of their nests?

[He is just assuming dragons have nests, in the same way he is assuming they lay eggs.]
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[personal profile] howexciting 2014-05-13 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
This is true. Still, dragons are supposedly very smart. And for that matter, humans fight back. Something such as a cow would not provide as much of a challenge, no?

Is the reason for such a cost of human life because we are encroaching on their territory? Is it because they do want livestock but humans are protecting it? Surely there must be an explanation, and an easier way of solving the problem than this, that will likely not cost so many human lives.

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