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[all_onis_are_true]

If I may have folks attention...

I understand many of us are caught up in this battle of Chariot vs. Tower and are desperately wishing to see the Titans win. Perhaps this is for the best, perhaps not. I could not say. However - and I know this is ironic considering how I am currently embroiled in this - I would like to call to attention the fact that one of their co-conspirators may be one of the lesser pantheon herself. Furthermore, that she has attempted to establish her own temple even before this conspiracy has reached its logical conclusion makes me wonder as to where her true loyalties lie. I would therefore appreciate somebody putting my mind at ease as to whether or not the Titans should be placing such reliance on Hebe, especially if she is, as has been suggested, the reason behind the clouding of the Gods' minds. Do the Titans even know of her orders to have a temple established in her name? Why would she be so willing to turn her back on her own compatriots - and does that mean she would be willing to do the same to her new compatriots given the opportunity?

I am simply asking questions. Feel free to provide evidence to reassure me that we should not consider this as a possible complication. Thank you.

Comments

[fridgeninja]

It's definitely a possible complication.

[all_onis_are_true]

I am reassured to hear I am not the only one with suspicions. I was beginning to worry people were overlooking this in their push to ensure the Titans' victory.

[highsteaks]

Wait, do you think she's trying to be the last god standing?

[... oh jeez. She can actually imagine that.]

Crap. We need to get one of the guys who's tight with the Titans to ask them about this.

[fridgeninja]

People are worried about that. But they want to make sure everyone here is safe, too. Or at least, as close as we can make them.

I won't lose sight of that.

[claudiometer]

From the looks of what Chie and I found in the library, she probably got involved in this because she was butthurt over being swapped out of her cushy position for a younger model, that being Ganymede. Can't say whether the temple this soon was part of the plan, or why she'd spring for it if not other than being on the power-hungry side of things.

The real question is whether chucking folks into Tartarus was part of the plan or dangerous improv. If it was the latter and the Titanspiracy at large has any sense, I can't imagine they're very happy about an attempt to perpetuate a nasty cycle.

Anyone talked to her or the Titans recently?

[all_onis_are_true]

I cannot deny it as a possibility. Remember that, if she is truly the betrayer of the pantheon, and her role as a cupbearer is as significant as implied, then she would have had to be the one to initiate the poisoning, which is the only thing that has made much of this revolt possible. In other words, she may be leading everybody into her own machinations, including the Titans. She would not be able to do most of this by herself, after all.

[all_onis_are_true]

Wait, could you repeat that? Did you just say she was throwing the existing Gods into Tartarus?!

[all_onis_are_true]

Thank you. I shall be relying on your assistance, Souji.

[claudiometer]

It's the most likely cause of the earthquakes, and she's the one who's been on Olympus the most. Granted, I have no idea what her throwing arm's like, but still.

Good news is it's only the two, so far.

[all_onis_are_true]

Regardless of whether or not this is improvised or part of the plan, this only solidifies my concerns. If she is outright "murdering" the Gods, for whatever that means, that bodes poorly on her morality, especially considering that it sounds as though there was simply no need for such a violent act given the Gods' stupefied state.

More evidence may be needed.

[claudiometer]

The extent to which it's part of the plan impacts how reasonable the others might be about finding a not-on-fire way out of this. The fact that she almost certainly had a hand in it happening? Yeah, can't help you there, she's apparently taken 'vindictive asshole' lessons from the best of 'em.

No surprise, given Zeus, but.

[all_onis_are_true]

Indeed. Our best case scenario is that she has been doing this without the Titans' consent. Considering her clear role in the conspiracy, this is not a possibility we can rule out.

I will continue to try and monitor things on the ground from my end. Hopefully those more encamped with the Titans will be able to confirm things on their side.

[claudiometer]

Hopefully.

[highsteaks]

Yeah, but I thought Prometheus was their leader guy? I mean, that's what the stuff the cowboy ninja showed us was talking about.

... though, I mean, if she's as sneaky and ruthless as you're making her sound, she could always join in on their plan and then make a plan inside the plan. If that makes any sense?

[all_onis_are_true]

It could be that Prometheus is the main leading force among the Titans themselves, but there is no way he could have accomplished what he had without Hebe's support. If she is also brazen enough to believe that she can work under the noses of the Titans, then I would not be surprised if she feels she could convince them to let her lead the new Pantheon, at the very least. At the most...

Either way, I do not trust her.

[highsteaks]

She is Zeus' kid, right? With his actual wife, not one of the ladies he turned into an animal to attack. Maybe she thinks that gives her, um, legitimacy to be the new Queen or something.

Yeah, I don't trust her either.

[helborn]

... I don't know, but... what if we just... ask someone? This isn't our Greece, right? So we can't know anything for sure.

[all_onis_are_true]

Unfortunately, I am not as much in contact with the Titans as some Travelers. That said, if somebody could ask someone who is, and they could establish a solid answer which they feel is reliable, that would certainly satisfy my inquiries.

[all_onis_are_true]

Quite possibly. Sadly, despite being a Priest, I have little insight into what she thinks. They seem very quick to shoot down anything that suggests dissent, or even reasonable concern.

[helborn]

I know Kinji is, but I don't know if anyone else is.

[all_onis_are_true]

I would certainly like to talk to this Kinji, then. Perhaps he can fill me in on how the Titans feel about her.

[ninjayeehaw]

[someone called?]

I'm gonna open with the fact that Prometheus was pretty cagey about his plan at the best a' times. Helios couldn't tell me what was makin' the gods off-kilter, an' I didn't get much relevant outta the big guy himself.

That bein' said, lemme know what I can offer.

[all_onis_are_true]

In other words, from the sounds of things, nobody is precisely sure how deep Hebe's own ambitions are. This is highly concerning.

If you could ask them more about how she became involved, and how reliable they feel she is, I would appreciate it. Right now, I have little confidence she is somebody to be trusted.

[Private]

[helborn]

Sorry... I know you're pretty busy.

[Private forever bc]

[ninjayeehaw]

Needs sayin'. Thanks fer bringin' it up.