razorblade_empress: (Blue)
[personal profile] razorblade_empress
So out of curiosity, and given that communication in general is a big issue here, I asked my Familiar why Questing Country's communication rules are what they are. According to Sagittarius, telling Champions things directly decreases their sense of their own power to find out and increases their knowledge, which could tip them too far towards becoming Oracles. Familiars can only be understood by their own Oracles because speaking plainly where anyone can hear risks leaving Questing Country full of people who understand its problems but don't have the necessary leverage to solve them, presumably because they're all Oracles now.

They've apparently tried explaining this to Dreamers at the outset before despite the slight risk of them Knowing Too Much, but it mostly didn't work, because being essentially told "you'll understand it when you're older" was just too difficult for new Dreamers to accept. So now they don't bother.

Doppelgangers, incidentally, aren't a voluntary thing - they're an unanticipated side effect, like Adversaries themselves. Spirit Companions do their best to try to relate to their Adversaries and put a brake on any damage they might do, but that's an adaptation - they're not creating the situation.

Speaking of Adversaries and Pillars, they were both as unexpected and misunderstood as Harbingers, albeit in different ways - for one thing, Pillars were never treated like villains. The Spirit Companions don't know why they started happening, and it took them quite a while to accept that they were a normal part of a Dreamer's psychological evolution under certain circumstances. They still don't really get it, but they've learned to live with it and trust their Dreamers even when they Pillar or rebel. Which, incidentally, indicates that a Pillar's Spirit Companion does actually still exist, although Sagittarius clammed up real fast when I asked her more about that.

Backstage did change when Adversaries and Pillars came into being, by the way, but Sagittarius doubts there are any Spirit Companions who have any continuity of memory of the details, since there are very few Dreamers who actually remain Dreamers long past maturity and it's been well over a thousand years since Adversaries first showed up.

Speaking of Backstage, she said everything that happens there has second- and third- order effects. It's the place where signficance comes from, and people typically aren't allowed back there because even Oracles only see and comprehend within their Aspects, which means they can't be sure of avoiding serious unforeseen disruptions. And since Champions have Power but not Understanding, what they do there could be potentially catastrophic. Adversaries are also a worry, for similar reasons. Pillars are the only exception, because they're not inclined to initiate changes. Oracles they also don't worry about too much despite our limited viewpoints being an issue, because most Oracles don't have the power to back any changes they want to make up.
bite_the_hand: (I don't know about that...)
[personal profile] bite_the_hand
If the Conductors are being run by a giant computer in the Waking World, that makes them a kind of computer virus like the Automata, right? And if the Conductors are like the Automata, doesn't that make Questing Country a kind of computer system too? Like the ZODIAC?

I might be shit at computers, but I do know you can give them a kind of immune system by installing antivirus in them. So is there a reason we can't make an antivirus against Conducting and install it into Questing Country?

Something to undo the damage to the Conductors' wills and stop it from being spread by accident. Then the existence of the Conductors wouldn't be damaging to Questing Country, just like the Automata don't hurt the Grid or the ZODIAC anymore.

Reprogramming the macrochip is still important too, but if we can do both then won't Questing Country stay safe even if the bastards behind this decide to build a new macrochip and try again?

Week 2

Sep. 12th, 2020 04:59 pm
insidegalra: (This is suspicious.)
[personal profile] insidegalra
[Shortly after the Travelers' nightmares appear, and are at least contained enough to take a mental break, Thace comes on the network, sounding grim.]

I have insights on Conductors from my current status as an Oracle, and from Analytics.

First, in cases where a Conductor does not consciously choose to become a Conductor, no one's choice is involved in that creation. Except once. Some outside force chose Leah. I haven't been able to get any more on that yet.

My understanding, which may be incomplete, from this and from reports of the Hecatite Oracle almost going Conductor taken together is that being a Conductor can be spread through close contact with them, even when there is no choice made on anyone's part to do so.

However, there are some who are going Conductor without close contact. This is what Analytics gave me: Every spontaneous Conductor who did not have close social contact with the Conductors became a Conductor in the Waking World.

Given these things, and the rest that we've learned, how do we want to proceed?
helborn: (Default)
[personal profile] helborn
All right, you know the deal. If you're yourself, psychically raise your hand.

Or, uh, if that doesn't make sense to you, just... let people know you're you. I'm myself, obviously, but I have no idea what the hell my archetype or role is. I was infiltrating last time as Ace -

- shit, I need to avoid him. Anyway! Yeah. Uh. ... Yeah...

[His psychic voice just trails off as the awkward overtakes him.]
amadine: (plan)
[personal profile] amadine
[And psychic protection is go for good measure.]

I'm sure the lot of you heard Raidou's warning that the Illuminants have found a way to tether themselves to Liminal Space.

For those of you fortunate enough to not know what that means, the Illuminants are powerful magical parasites that we first encountered in a place called Dolorosa several years ago. They have a nasty habit of possessing some poor magically gifted bastard and sucking them dry, while wreaking absolute fucking havoc on the magical balance of the land around them. In Dolorosa, they spawned a plague of curses and a plague of dragons. In Misericordia, it was just the dragons that we witnessed, though gods alone know what other hell they unleashed afterward.

They managed to break into Liminal Space the second time we were in the world that served as their playground, but our hosts weren't inclined to share, and before now they've not shown a knack for leaping between worlds under their own power - visions of dubious provenance notwithstanding. If they've figured out how to ride the Trumps' coattails - or manage to take over Liminal Space - that's bad fucking news for the next world we encounter, to say nothing of our own homes.

Which brings me to the point of this little attempt to reach out. I think that if we can yank them all the way through into Liminal Space, we can temporarily cut them off from the majority of their power, and kill them both here and in their own world before they can find some other place to play the parasite.

If you're willing to help with the summoning, or to travel by Bridge to break their places of power while we've got them in a trap, then tell me what you have to offer. If you're not, then stay well clear - we don't need any unexpected nooks and crannies for them to ooze into.
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[personal profile] reallymean
I'm sure some of you have already discovered the reason for Liminal Space's current shape, but for those who haven't, Star is one of the living Arcana once more. Their restoration wasn't my work alone, but it was my idea to make the attempt, and my plan that we followed. The resurrection, and any consequences it might have on the Jaunt or Jaunts to follow is my responsibility. Not my team's, not the result of some plot by the Arcana or any outside forces. Mine.

Before anyone asks, I don't have any intention of resurrecting the rest of the fallen Arcana. I don't think it could even be done the same way a second time. With one exception, we don't know enough about how and where they died - and I suspect even making the attempt would be so against the idiom of that exception as to guarantee failure.
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[personal profile] youandyoualone
Would someone who is only investigating be willing to help me retrieve an object from Moonfall and bring it to liminal space? I can give the location, but for various reasons, I would rather the Cabalist whose body I am sharing not learn of its continued existence.

Said object is about the height of a child of a child of seven and a bit more than twice the weight. It can be safely handled by anyone as long as one doesn't try to kythe with it. I'd ask you to bring it to liminal space via portal and hammerspace and after the Jaunt I'd take custody of it.
leftbehindagain: (planning squad)
[personal profile] leftbehindagain
Magician said they can, in theory, drop us off anywhere on the Vale but Stricken-Star, because they don't have anchors there.

I can't figure out what she means by 'anchors.' Anyone else have any ideas?
lightnovelexperiences: (genuinely confused)
[personal profile] lightnovelexperiences
Hey, while we're all here and all ourselves?

My... Patron God? Ruling Arcanum? Not sure what the right word here is... gave me a list of what all of the Arcana are like, according to them.

Penuel is a they, by the way. Definitely not a "she." I asked.

Anyway, I'm going to text you the document verbatim before properly archiving it in the Leonardo Memorial Library or whatever.

How accurate is this according to your own perceptions? They seem to have a particular hate-on for ROSE, because to hear them tell it she flagrantly cheats at everything for the lulz - but Judgement strikes me as super duper Lawful - try not to be shocked - while the stunt ROSE pulled for the Vale makes me inclined to think she's not Evil, just Chaotic.

...people have played D&D here, right? Or do I need to unpack that?

PS: If I ever meet the Priestess I'm calling her Io. It's probably a new name for her and I think she'd be delighted.

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Dec. 29th, 2019 06:50 am
neverfeltthatway: (this is my calculating face)
[personal profile] neverfeltthatway
I've heard some people talking about it on the network, but I figure it makes sense to make it an open question, so we can all think about it and coordinate.

Who all wants to be de-infiltrated when we go back? I can restore three more people myself, and I know we have a lot of people with that ability.
crouching_sin: (too tired for thinking)
[personal profile] crouching_sin
[Naoya just sounds tired when he hops on the network.]

Watch out for Qabil when you get back. He's not going to make whatever it is we're planning easy to implement if it doesn't fall under his plans. He also has an ancient Cabalist in his head with him which has not done wonders for his mental state.

Fortunately - or unfortunately, depending on how you think about it - he and I share a relatively similar style of planning. If you're planning on confronting him, run it past me before you can't anymore.

He is very powerful in terms of psychic abilities due to being a Cabalist and his own... unique situation. He's also, for the record, the one who set the fire in the warehouse this past week.
claudiometer: pulling on neutralizer gloves (we retrieve dangerous objects)
[personal profile] claudiometer
Okay, guys, I'm trying to catch up but you got network-happy, there's kind of A Lot. And we should probably have it in once central place anyway.

What do we know about Jauntzilla? How the entire fuck are we supposed to fight these things? Hypatia's more worried about getting her expedition on the road while there's still people to go on it, but she'd prefer to have a home to come back to. I'm de-infiltrating myself when we get back, that's for damn sure.

[And later, after it comes up that Nation-Eaters are vulnerable to electricity:]

Right. So we've all agreed the time for subtlety is over. Who wants a Tesla? I'll make as many as I can when the party's not on. Free lightning you don't have to call on liminal bullshit to produce.
reallymean: (resolved)
[personal profile] reallymean
[The Jaunt has only been over for perhaps half an hour when Allura's voice comes across the network, tight and clipped as though she has a white-knuckled grasp on control.]

I know some of us tend toward trigger happy.

[As evidenced by the chalk outline in the penalty box - not quite a universal sign for 'some poor soul was just murdered', but close.]

But I would strongly advise against killing someone who has been severed from the Network or from Liminal Space. It appears to...disrupt the mechanism by which we're resurrected if we die during a Jaunt. They will return in the Floor, aware for at least part of the process.
grimjeaper: <user name="careydraws" site="tumblr.com"> (well there y'go)
[personal profile] grimjeaper
Hey, so. Weird question. Does anyone have a Dataspike I could borrow?
whatsina_name: (Phillip [What are you doing])
[personal profile] whatsina_name
 So Casper's dad is here now.

Who wants to kill him before he makes Casper miserable? [because seriously this guy needs to be dead like yesterday]
unapologeticallyaffected: (disheveled phone)
[personal profile] unapologeticallyaffected
Please, somebody tell me there's a hairdresser around here somewhere. Because this is getting ridiculous.
breakaleginhalf: (are you shitting me)
[personal profile] breakaleginhalf
Okay, first of all mad props to Claudia and Jules for getting a cure for the Trojan bullshit sorted. [He'll be getting on grabbing that as soon as he can.]

Secondly, I just got another hot tip from Magician.

"Most mutineers are either extremely close to holding power or extremely distant (and abused by it)."

So I guess we're looking for someone either really high or really low on the Colossus food chain.
theflyingone: walk the plank (ghost)
[personal profile] theflyingone
This is Altaïr. I am... not here. I am making this message for the Network in case I am in a Dungeon but am otherwise unharmed. I do not think I need to say that I will be unavailable for conversation. Um... do not worry?

Maria, Dungeons are generally only dangerous for the rescuers. I mean, I would hope that the phantoms of my mind would not give you too much trouble. [ He wants to say I love you here, but thinks better of it. He might be making this message to thin air, but if he's doing it right, it would be public later. He always kept sentiments private. ] Malik, you can borrow Abraxas if you want. And, my apologies, my friend.

I suppose anyone could try leaving me a message here, like with the talking-tile. I'd be interested to see if I could retrieve it later.

[ ooc: Feel free to use this post for shit-talking discussion. And, he "recorded" this before Maria Thorpe had been dropped. ]
acapriciousthing: (Actually this IS her angry face)
[personal profile] acapriciousthing
This is Death. I'm back.

[And she's pissed, not to put too fine a point on it]

And I need to know everything we have on what they've done.

[Does she really need to say who they are?]

Though I suppose How dare they? is best directed at the ones who are behind it.
ninjayeehaw: (y'all gotta be pulling my leg)
[personal profile] ninjayeehaw
So I've been keepin' an eye on the cabochon space we done discovered earlier, an' I noticed it's changin' up a little.

[There's a brief memory supplied then, of said changes: the sensation of another person in the room gets ignored completely in favour of the ring of windchimes in the air, that seems to get sharper when Kinji's attention turns to the lightning - but, oddly, they almost sound more like harpstrings; and there's a sense of motion underfoot that his fellow subspace divers will recognise as being a right bit faster than before.]

An' I'm wonderin' now if we can't do somethin' t'disrupt it. Cos whatever this is, Altaïr's readin' it as an enemy, it's where the Glatisant done spawned from, an' when some a' that lightnin' got loose it tore a hole in the world an' started spawnin' Nightmares. It ain't good.

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