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[leftbehindagain]

I wouldn’t normally offer some of this on a wide scale, but if Harrogate’s looking likely, we need to be as well-armed for it as we can. I can also help with explaining how to de-infiltrate people, and if anyone wants help improving their mental defenses I can do that too.

It might also be helpful to have more people who can punch through network barriers – for one thing, there’s the chance they’ll split the group again, and for another, we’ve had network barriers on the same jaunt before. If it happened in Achaia, it could happen again here.

Bridging network gaps works about once a week, and de-infiltrating people… I’ve only ever managed it once on a given jaunt. I’m not sure if that’s a hard limit or if I just didn’t have cause to, but it’d be better to have as many possible openings for de-infiltration as we can get.

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[thornsofmalkav]

I can definitely do the first of those things. I did it back in the Shoals. I've never done the second, but I've got a theoretical understanding of how.

[leftbehindagain]

That should help, then. It's... essentially finding the core of a Traveler's mind inside the infiltrator, and giving them control again. If there's a way to separate someone from their overlay without killing them, I think that's several steps beyond any of us at this point.

[thornsofmalkav]

Yeah. I mean, I think the Bando guys could do it via exorcism, but that's the only way I can think to do it.

[leftbehindagain]

Or Newport, since that's where it happened to Naoto. Even then, that's just kicking the Traveler out, not giving them a new body.

[thornsofmalkav]

Yeah and it's not like any of us have learned how, I think.

[leftbehindagain]

The only time I know of people being pulled out of their overlays and put back into other bodies right away was when the Illuminants broke into Liminal, and even that's a special circumstance.

[If it were possible, Naoki figures it'd take a deep familiarity with both the network and Liminal Space, and that's something not many people can claim to have.]

[thornsofmalkav]

Yeah, because with liminal space they could just wake up their real bodies once they pulled them out of the people they were possessing. Although I guess if someone could use the network to draw them out then they'd do the same thing, like when the overlays die.

Huh. You know, that might not be a bad long-term psychic network goal to work toward.

[leftbehindagain]

Well, it was also the Arcana who did the separating, according to Maria-chan. Not exactly normal circumstances, or anything we can really use as a test. I don't know if that was close enough to the end of the walkabout that they would've bothered with the usual procedure or skipped straight to 'well, everyone will be here soon enough anyway.'

It wouldn't... but I'm not sure if it would just be a network goal. I mean, you'd need to not only be able to pull their mind out but give it somewhere to go.

[thornsofmalkav]

Wouldn't it just end up back where they are when their bodies are protected?

Making a new body for them, though, that would be pretty cool, wouldn't it? But you'd need enough ectoplasm to actually make the thing. At least, that's what I assume Jaunt bodies are made of. So you'd probably have to be in liminal when you did the trick.

[leftbehindagain]

And that might make it difficult if not impossible to get a bead on someone to de-infiltrate them in the first place.

It's an interesting idea, though it may be more trouble than it's worth. Still, if something came of it it'd be damn impressive.