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Claudia Donovan ([personal profile] claudiometer) wrote in [community profile] synopsychic2019-12-23 08:05 pm

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Okay, guys, I'm trying to catch up but you got network-happy, there's kind of A Lot. And we should probably have it in once central place anyway.

What do we know about Jauntzilla? How the entire fuck are we supposed to fight these things? Hypatia's more worried about getting her expedition on the road while there's still people to go on it, but she'd prefer to have a home to come back to. I'm de-infiltrating myself when we get back, that's for damn sure.

[And later, after it comes up that Nation-Eaters are vulnerable to electricity:]

Right. So we've all agreed the time for subtlety is over. Who wants a Tesla? I'll make as many as I can when the party's not on. Free lightning you don't have to call on liminal bullshit to produce.
fearinahandfulof: (Missed)

[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2019-12-24 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Healing enough to reveal the tampering takes an hour - a bit less if you're very good at it. Removing the tampering entirely would probably take up to a few days.

The person I was able to partially heal hadn't seen a 'Vale Art' like mine before. He was hoping the Calculator Council could figure out something that might work similarly, but I don't know how long that would take them.
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2019-12-24 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Oh huh. That's-- interesting. If kinda wonder if maybe you guys ought to wake me up in Chara when we go back, so I can help with that shit.
fearinahandfulof: (Shock)

[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2019-12-24 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
I could do that, if you wanted.
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2019-12-24 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Would you? She's a Cleritor, so she's got the right kinda training that I wouldn't overwhelm her and send her back to sleep. And then I can make sure Joscelin wakes up, because he doesn't want to be Ios again any longer than he has to. Which, like, is hella fair. Ios is basically his worst self.

And I could Ectoplasmically Embody someone too, if we needed me to.
fearinahandfulof: (Pensive)

[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2019-12-24 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
All right.

...And I think I've figured out the cloning thing we were talking about, so if more than one person ends up needing that, I can help.
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2019-12-24 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Oh excellent. I'm, like, nearly there, but I was prioritizing finding other non-Jaunt worlds first. Good news! I think I've found mine, but I haven't quite got to the point where I can bridge over yet.
fearinahandfulof: (Worry)

[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2019-12-24 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
How would you do that? ...Or is there something in place preventing it?

[The Arcana have to be able to stop people who can or want to go home from doing so somehow...]
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2020-01-18 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still working on... shit, I'm trying to think of the right words for it? Translating where it is to something liminal space understands. I'm not sure if it's just that I'm being slow at figure that out or if liminal space is curtailed in where it connects to when Synodiporia is in play.
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[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2020-01-18 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
I think in this case, it's something even Fortune would have an interest in deliberately curtailing. Otherwise, a lot of people would leave once they figured out how, and that would cause too much chaos for their game. They'd have to replenish their ranks a lot more often.
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2020-01-19 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeahhhhh, that makes. A fuckload of sense, actually. Welp. At least I can get good and practiced for when this is over, then.
fearinahandfulof: (Closeup)

[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2020-01-19 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
...Yes.

[She's still not sure what's going to happen when all this is over, or where she might go, if given the option, besides "not home."]
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2020-01-19 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
But I mean, if I have everything figured out but the actual connecting, which I'm currently being actively kept from doing, then I can just-- set that aside and concentrate on other things. Like healing. And refining various aspects of other skills.
fearinahandfulof: (Shock)

[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2020-01-20 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I can help with the healing, if you haven't figured it out already.

[Although she's fairly sure Thorne doesn't need the help.]

What other skills?
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2020-02-05 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
I've got once-a-day quick healing down pat, but I think I need to get better on the psychic side before I could do once a month instantaneous.

And, mm, I've been working on storing templates on the network, like Bismuth suggested we do. After that, I might see about changing things that aren't clothes liminally or trying to get it so I can make things out of liminal space without needing to have a full dreamcatcher.
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[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2020-02-05 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that one just needs advanced psychic healing on the psychic side. On the physical side it needs Liminal regeneration, but I know you can do that one already.

[Guess who learned the Ectoplasmic Recovery skills more or less immediately.]

Armin and I were talking about... uploading and downloading things, but I was thinking more of a permanent Liminal connection than something like that. I think I've probably got enough to learn how to make that now, though.

[She thinks for a moment.]

I think I've also figured out how to Liminally change things to other things? That seems like it doesn't need very much Liminal knowledge at all - you just need to be able to do basic manipulation and to change your own clothing. Actually making things outside of Liminal Space is harder, though. I think it needs one of the newer Liminal skills, and maybe templates as well.

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thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2020-02-28 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can do that. I just need to get my ass in gear and work on the psychic healing end of things. Though, like, at least I got some practice with that when Felicia broke everything one last time for old time's sake.

[Getting some memories for Steven had helped a bit.]

Making a permanent liminal connection isn't too hard when you have the right skills. It's weird but. Like. Okay, you know how you can make permanent rooms and objects, so they don't go away if you dungeon or infiltrate?

You do that. And then you sort of take the permanent-ness from the thing you made and put it inside of you.

[She really wants to say upload/download but Cassandra isn't exactly from somewhere that computer metaphors come easily.]

It would definitely make sense that you don't need much more than that to, like, liminally transmute shit. It's really just the same thing as changing your clothes, it's just easier to wrap your head around altering clothing than it is other things, because 'what-I'm-wearing' is such a mutable thing anyway.
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[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2020-02-28 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
You did?

I only picked up psychic healing relatively recently. But it wasn't difficult - the advanced healing only needs the basic healing.

So you're making yourself, or a part of yourself, a permanent... not part of Liminal Space, but you're giving yourself a permanent tether.

[She... thinks she gets it?]

I think it would also be easier if you know of the concept in general... like stories of changing worthless items into valuables, or vice versa.
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2020-02-29 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you know how my big brother was here for a little while? I got him some memories back. I pretty much learned psychic healing to fix memories, actually. But I'm still just doing the basic kind.

And yeah! That's how you get it so you can't be kicked out.

But yeah, I think so too about the transmutation. It's all about if your mind can believe enough to shape reality.
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fearinahandfulof: (Shock)

[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2020-02-29 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
...I'm trying to describe the more advanced healing, but I think it's mostly just "basic, but more." So I don't think it will take you very long at all to learn the advanced hybrid recovery skill either.

And there's no way to sever that connection?

[She could imagine some people trying, and that's an unnerving thought. Then again, if Roxanne was here, and permanently tethered to Liminal Space, Cassandra herself would probably be tempted...]

Instead of reality shaping our minds...
thornsofmalkav: (chinhands)

[personal profile] thornsofmalkav 2020-03-01 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
Our minds shape reality, yeah. Hazard of existing in a thoughtrealm.

I don't think there's a way, but I dunno for sure. It doesn't mean you can't leave here on you own, mind you. It just means no one can force you out.
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[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2020-03-01 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thinking about it that way feels strange. But that's to be expected, isn't it?

No one can force us out...

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fearinahandfulof: (Startlement)

[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2019-12-24 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
[There is the mental equivalent of a confused blink.]

You're... welcome?
Edited 2019-12-24 13:40 (UTC)
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[personal profile] protect_and_serve 2019-12-26 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want to be that man longer than I have to.
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[personal profile] fearinahandfulof 2019-12-26 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
[Oh. She really should have made that connection; hadn't Thorne just mentioned Joscelin and Ios?]

...Right. You're - you're welcome.