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Malik Al-Sayf ([personal profile] loyalrebel) wrote in [community profile] synopsychic2016-05-09 09:35 am

Malik Greatly Disapproves. Again.

[It's been a while since Malik's spoken up on the network but this is something drastic to him and it needs addressing.]

It has been recently brought to my attention that the education system of modern times is sorely lacking in a number of regards.

I was told that beyond the basics of reading and mathematics anything else was not important and was not even taught, and this desperately needs to be rectified.

We may be learning magic and other such things from our overlays, but there are areas that are horrifically left by the wayside in this arms race we have entered in to.

I may not know much about history as it is from most of your perspectives but there has to be educators among us or at least those who will be willing to step up and help the children among us not return home uneducated louts who respond to the idea of mathematics or reading with "why should I care?" or "it is too difficult".

[He's not sorry Phillip. This is probably your fault kid.]
dawnoftruth: (waving flag)

[personal profile] dawnoftruth 2016-05-11 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
I could hardly imagine a conversation that was not very very stilted. Does one use them besides searching out legal terms and concepts as it is? Perhaps it is lazy not to labor through translating things by oneself, and you do lose something, but at times...

The substance of the idea sometimes IS the thing that matters most. One must be careful with that though, to understand enough of the original intent. If one can ever completely infer that.


The only way you could. Well. I would say it sounds as though you have made QUITE the change in circumstances from that choice and effort and that you've done it on your own. Can you be so surprised that someone may admire it.

We've not met, Monsieur, no. I've only left my city lately, and to find myself here. I miss her, but it IS pleasant enough to make the acquaintance of those who understand a world that feels much closer to my own. Enjolras. From Paris, but of the South.
aimedhigh: (yr obedient servant)

[personal profile] aimedhigh 2016-05-16 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno. I'm not generally on speakin' terms with the one guy I know who probably can speak it, and frankly I'm real glad he's not here to ask.

Well. No, it's just not a subject I'm overly fond of. [--Ah! A release from the awkward. Thank goodness.]

Oh, you're French? Enchanté, then, and welcome to liminal space. I'm Alexander Hamilton, lately of New York City.
dawnoftruth: (do you hear)

[personal profile] dawnoftruth 2016-05-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I can certainly think of a few people I am glad not to see here, I confess. Not on speaking terms does about cover it.

[Javert certainly. If HE walked up to Enjolras here, he's not sure what he would do. The others of his friends, well, it would be GOOD to see any of them, but Marius would be especially awkward to run into anyway.]

Some others...I suppose if this is a fate I was meant to have, then I must face at least some of it without them.

I suppose that is as good a reason as any to avoid such talk then. I can marvel in my own mind then, and simply not inform you of it, shall I?

Ah, so I am. Enjolras. Most recently of Paris. And before that, Provence.
aimedhigh: (never backed down)

[personal profile] aimedhigh 2016-05-26 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'd appreciate that.

[There's a brief grin.] Paris, huh? I've got a friend who lives a little outside of there. Never made it over to see him, but we write -- wrote fairly often.
dawnoftruth: (sc: crossed arms)

[personal profile] dawnoftruth 2016-05-28 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes? A name I would recognize, perhaps?

[Sorry but a name from the last few years is coming up in his mind. Considering that man's involvement with the American revolution, after all.]

aimedhigh: (oui oui mon ami)

[personal profile] aimedhigh 2016-05-30 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Probably. The Marquis de Lafayette? He served in the war with me.
dawnoftruth: (let others rise)

[personal profile] dawnoftruth 2016-06-03 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ah...Indeed.

[The tone shifts a little here, to something slightly awkward.] He negotiated the establishment of a constitutional monarchy for us two years ago. I think no one was very pleased with that.
aimedhigh: (are you fuckin serious)

[personal profile] aimedhigh 2016-06-03 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[In contrast, Alexander's tone sharpens a little.]

After a revolt, I take it? Considering the first revolution went so well, I can see why he advocated for such a thing.
dawnoftruth: (sc: crossed arms)

[personal profile] dawnoftruth 2016-06-16 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
After a revolution. There is a difference between the two at least in terms of popular support. A revolt can BECOME a revolution, obviously, but...

[But some do not, obviously. As far as the actual statement goes, Enjolras does snort.]

And a difference between revolution and republic. I would point out that the first revolution did what it set out to do. The republic...it may have carried things too far after a point. Sad, what a people feel they must resort to when they have long been pushed. I fear it was the wave of terror that inspired a lack of discrimination when it came to invoking reprisals against those who had harmed the republic, or were perceived to have.

It made us unsteady, of course, the greatest nation in the world, but to stand on such a foundation as could so easily be crumpled when we turned amongst ourselves...There is an inevitability in that, I think.

But when a Revolution, comprised of those including la Garde nationale arises...certainly that speaks to the idea that more than angry students and workers are ready.

Would you suggest that we cannot learn from the past? That we are not capable of achieving greatness as we learn from the failure as well as the success of those who've come before? How limited do you propose that any people is, that advancement may not come?
Edited 2016-06-16 16:28 (UTC)
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[personal profile] aimedhigh 2016-06-16 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
'Too far'. Was it too far when they started imprisonin' innocent folks, or when they cut off the heads of the damn guys who started the thing in the first place? Kinda hard to get anywhere when most of the people with the good ideas are dead, ain't it.

I'm not sayin' you can't learn from the past, I'm just sayin' maybe you should consider taking the advice of a guy who's been in a couple revolutions. He might have a few tricks up his sleeve. We can't all go runnin' headlong into a republic. I mean, it's a fuckin' miracle that ours even got off the ground.
dawnoftruth: (sc: grr)

[personal profile] dawnoftruth 2016-06-16 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Those are the problems I refer to, yes. Particularly the latter. I used to long for the experience of having seen those days, when I was young and stupid, but when I came to know the men who would become my brothers...that latter part became a nightmare, and the former unthinkable. To create something that lasts, a revolution does need more. Not only commitment to the cause, but commitment to those principles that caused it to began.

If not... the snake feeds on its own tail and hardly stops to realize it has done so, doesn't it? Not a strong basis for anything to last, though I am at least relieved that I was clearly meant for revolution and that when my task was ended, to be called to...

[To be called to what? Enjolras supposes, thinking about it that death doesn't apply here, really, does it? Not the death he'd considered, anyway.]

Well, to be called to what lies beyond, I do suppose, be it this, or something else. I will admit I have no mind for government, and perhaps my estimations were, still are, too rash. Experience makes a decent teacher, but there are times the decision to strike out, even against those voices can be right, can be principled, as we attempted to conduct ourselves.

Although...[He has to snort, his tone a little rueful now] The revolt that sent me to another world, two years later, that we had every reason to suspect would be the one after the Revolution Monsueir le marquis halted against much of the collective will...

Several people did warn us against that one,and less we had expected turned out to man the city's barricades. Perhaps there was something more that they knew after all, at least as our approaches were concerned.

aimedhigh: (what's the state of our nation?)

[personal profile] aimedhigh 2016-06-30 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there ain't we can do a lot about government in this place, unless we try an' start a council of some kind, but I'm not sure how it'd work yet.

Maybe. Or maybe you shoulda tried compromisin', but that sounds like it was after my time, so I shouldn't be talkin' about it. [A beat.] It does work, though. Sometimes.