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*Hyun-ae ([personal profile] hatefuldays) wrote in [community profile] synopsychic2017-11-20 12:59 pm

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This is *Hyun-ae again! Sorry I wasn't really able to contribute anything to the Jaunt, but it sounds like things turned out pretty well.

So, I was thinking about how all of us were apparently taken from various worlds or alternate universes, and was wondering: Do we have any sort of compiled list of what worlds we've discovered? Liminal Space and Jaunts are both crazy, but there's a whole extra layer of this experience where we're basically all getting a chance to discover dozens of other worlds and universes through each other! We can't see them directly, but there's still got to be plenty of interesting stuff we can learn just by talking about where we're from and how those places differ or how they're the same.

I was going to follow that up with "so let's assemble a list of all those worlds and what we know about them", but the more I think about it, the harder it seems like it's going to be to even figure out where to start. Like, for example, I know we've got a lot of people from "Earth" or some variant of it, so how can we tell which ones are parallel Earths and which ones are the same planet? It gets even hairier when you factor in that there's different periods of time represented, so saying "this person and that person are from the same Earth/different Earths" is practically impossible most of the time.

So as a compromise, if any part of this sounds useful, interesting, or cool, tell us a bit about where you're from! It's not like there's too much for us to be doing while we're stuck in Liminal Space, so why not? I don't have a specific format in mind, but maybe some basics like...

* Homeworld name
* Other people you know are from the same world as you (to keep this organized)
* Local year when you left
* Whether or not you know what Disney is (this seems to be some kind of divide, at least for Earths)

I'll go first! I'm from the Mugunghwa, which is a generation ship sent from Earth to another planet where it was going to start a new colony. The trip was on the order of thousands of years long, so in between, the ship was basically its own isolated society. My situation's a little complicated timeline-wise, but it was 4989 AD when I was warped here, which might or might not be why I've never heard of Disney before. Magic and monsters don't exist (as far as I know), but it seems like our tech was pretty advanced compared to most people I've talked to - space travel tech has gotten pretty advanced by the 60th century, and human-comparable AI is a thing.

...If I'm going to talk about the ship for culture exchange purposes, I guess I should probably talk at least a little about what happened in the later years of the ship's society... So, I spent a very long time in cryostasis and accordingly don't have a firsthand account of what happened, but a few millenia after the ship's voyage began, there was a coup and a family managed to instate themselves as a new royal family. They blamed a bunch of things they did on rebels as an excuse to take more power for themselves, and pushed society back to Joseon Dynasty ideals - stability, strength of family lines, male superiority. A couple hundred years down the road, you end up in a world where scientific research is dead in the water and women aren't allowed to learn how to read.

...Eesh, sorry to end that on a dark note. But, well, that's how it was, and why I'm so glad to be here now. There's probably some kind of fancy moral you could come up with to summarize the whole incident, but I'm honestly not far enough away from it to look at it objectively and come up with one, so I guess I'll leave that to you.


[ Private to Malin ]

Status report! It took a while, but I managed to get the hang of making portals! A couple other things, too - I experimented a bit, and I can psychically change outfits and stuff. It's still so wild that this is just something I can do by thinking about it.

Thanks for all your training~
youandyoualone: (Default)

Was suggested not has suggested, argh

[personal profile] youandyoualone 2017-11-21 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
True enough. I think there logic was that it is the only world he exists on. I suppose by that logic one could alternately call it the d'Angeline World, because it seems to be the only world my country exists on, but we do not own the world either.

If you have an idea for another thing to refer to it by, I welcome the suggestion.
Edited 2017-11-21 04:16 (UTC)
theflyingone: chicken or egg? (contemplative)

[personal profile] theflyingone 2017-11-21 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
It is difficult for me to say, since I am not from there, and we speak of events that happened centuries before our times... Hm. Part of the difference seems to be that neither the Prophet Isa--that is, Yeshua--nor the Prophet Mohammed spread their beliefs so widely. I never even thought to ask if your world has a Mohammed, or if he even came into contact with any of the People of the Book.

[ A D'Angeline might not notice, but someone else from Earth might: Altaïr did not add honorifics blessing their names. He was godless, and there was no need to hide it here. ]

I suppose I could come up with something, but it would be very long, dry, and uninteresting. 'Age of Elua' maybe, like how Malik and I have learned to identify ourselves to others as being 'from the Crusades' despite opposing them. I admit, the word leaves a bitter taste. It also does not describe the whole world.
youandyoualone: (keen interest)

[personal profile] youandyoualone 2017-11-21 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
In truth, I would not know. I have never heard of a Prophet Mohammed, but then I have not had much to do with that part of the world. At least, if you are talking of the region that the ancestors of the Yeshuites were originally from, which I believe you are. Currently, that peninsula is held by Kebel-im-Akkad and the Umaiyyat. I believe the Akkadians worship the god Shamash. I do not know who they worship in the Umaiyyat.

[For once in his life, he actually wants to talk to Barquiel L'Envers, if only because L'Envers probably knows these things, having served so long as the Akkadian ambassador.]

Were it not for the Yeshuites, I might call it the World Without Christianity, but I am given to understand that Christianity is a very strange version of Yeshua's worship. The World of Ancient Faiths might do. We in Terre d'Ange are very unusual in worshiping newer gods, after all.

... may I ask what these Crusades are?
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theflyingone: no one expects (stab knife)

[personal profile] theflyingone 2017-11-21 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, Shamash was an old god of Babylonia and Assyria, Akkadian kingdoms. My world had an Umayyad Caliphate, but the Abbasids succeeded them and rule now. As for the religions that were in Arabia before, there is not much left to tell. There were native pagan religions with idols, as well as influence from neighbors like the Jews, and Persians' Mazdayasna.

Names for wars usually only happen after they're done with. I know the Crusades as things like "Frankish Wars" which explains itself, but they simply call it a journey or pilgrimage. Now they have started calling themselves croisée, after the cross.
youandyoualone: (keen interest)

[personal profile] youandyoualone 2017-11-27 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The cross is the symbol the Christians use instead of the khai of the Yeshuites, yes? It seems very odd to me that they would use the instrument of his death for their symbol, instead of the Habiru word for 'life.' Is his rebirth not the most important part of Yeshua's story?
theflyingone: fly like an eagle (leap of faith)

[personal profile] theflyingone 2017-11-28 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
It depends on who you talk to. For most, it is his sacrifice. They say that he replaced the animals regularly sacrificed to pay for sins, now and for the future. Anyone could go out and preach, but only he could be good enough to pay for all sins. That is why they say they are saved.

Through his death, there is life. Eternal life in heaven is still important to them. It is used by Christians as a sort of promise, even an excuse for the things they do. Muslims as well.

[ Nevermind that he did not believe any of it. If Altaïr had any hope of blending in with scholars to escape attention or gain special access, he'd have better studied well. ]