someonetocarry: (dubious)
someonetocarry ([personal profile] someonetocarry) wrote in [community profile] synopsychic2016-04-27 10:12 pm

Trump-Talk

So somebody wanna tell me where the Trumps were hidin' this Jaunt? My other self in there was kinda on the sidelines of whatever action went down, given the whole havin'-a-baby thing, and I don't remember talkin' to anythin' that might fit a Trump in disguise.

[Little does she know... still, it's a place to start the conversation for various interested parties, right? Including herself. Because she's not actually even sure which Trump marked her.]
leftbehindagain: (chopped liver)

[personal profile] leftbehindagain 2016-04-28 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Symbiotic might be a better word. They may not understand us any more than we understand them, but the important thing here is that they can't accomplish whatever it is they want to accomplish without pulling people along.

Besides, more than one's turned me down because it wouldn't be an ideal fit. If they didn't have some degree of mutual benefit in mind, you'd think they'd just snap up the first people they could find instead of being so picky.
comebewe: (Doubtful 1)

[personal profile] comebewe 2016-04-28 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
An ideal fit for you, or for them?

They might need us. Doesn't mean that they give a shit what happens to us.
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[personal profile] leftbehindagain 2016-04-28 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
Why not both?

They're not human. [Or... whatever it is the Angels are, but he's done such a good job of not getting that all over the network, at least.] Their idea of care isn't always going to look like what we'd call benevolence. And either way, we don't have enough information to really make a judgment call yet, but that sounds like a point in favor of it being something mutual.
comebewe: (Aggressive 5)

[personal profile] comebewe 2016-04-28 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, and not human covers a lot of fucking things, Naoki. Funnily enough, they're not all rainbows and sunshine!

And thanks to them I've just spent the last two months as a goddamn psychopath who doesn't see anything wrong with killing someone that they're easier to interrogate, so why don't you keep trying to tell me that all of this is for my own fucking good.
leftbehindagain: (that's really stupid)

[personal profile] leftbehindagain 2016-04-28 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
Believe me, I know.

And I'm not trying to tell you anything other than my perspective on the matter.
comebewe: (Aggressive 1)

[personal profile] comebewe 2016-04-28 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Good. Because you can take your perspective and shove it.
leftbehindagain: (leave me alone)

[personal profile] leftbehindagain 2016-04-28 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, excuse me for thinking in your general direction and answering the points you brought up, I'm sure. If you'd like to have an actual conversation about this when you get your head out of your ass, you know where to find me. Otherwise, don't bother mentioning it to me again.

[He won't be answering anything further from Matthew.]
loyalrebel: (my god you're an idiot)

[personal profile] loyalrebel 2016-04-28 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Naoki.

Not all of us have had a favorable impression of our hosts.
leftbehindagain: (got my eye on you)

[personal profile] leftbehindagain 2016-04-28 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
...I know.

I'm not expecting anyone to agree. Not even Matthew-san. But it sounded like he wanted to have a conversation about it, and then I got chewed out for answering his arguments with my own.

I probably shouldn't have snapped. [At least he's aware he can be a judgmental little shit sometimes? (It's one of many reasons he's baffled that Leonardo seems to be pinning so much on his opinion. That's a terrible idea.)]
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[personal profile] loyalrebel 2016-04-28 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems to happen quite a bit when people have differing viewpoints around here.

[He's not bitter about what happened after Nova Venezia at all. Nope.]

I have gathered that those of you who did not go to the 1920's had a difficult time, being upset and easily irritable is understandable.
leftbehindagain: (inconsequential)

[personal profile] leftbehindagain 2016-04-28 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
No kidding. [Gee, why on earth would he be.

But really, that's kind of the button Matthew tripped over. Naoki saw how hard that whole argument was on the two people who did the most to try to stop it, and really didn't feel like having one himself.]

It doesn't help that this is something we're probably not all going to agree on even when we actually know what it is they're up to. I still think more evidence points to them thinking this is to our mutual benefit, even if they have a funny way of showing it, but I know I'm in the minority. I just don't want to be told to fuck off for having an opinion.

And yes, I know I kind of did that to him. I never said I'm perfectly consistent.
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[personal profile] loyalrebel 2016-04-28 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I am of the mind that we can only have suspicions, everyone will always have their own way of looking at any given situation and form their own conclusions from it.

It is on us to be willing to accept it and still work together when the situation calls for it.
leftbehindagain: (planning squad)

[personal profile] leftbehindagain 2016-04-28 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's generally not a problem, at least.