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thezerothlaw ([personal profile] thezerothlaw) wrote in [community profile] synopsychic2016-08-30 05:11 pm

[Everybody except Ambrose.]

Pardon me.

[As polite as ever; Daneel rarely speaks on the psychic network at large, though he listens enough. It's rude to interject, he feels.]

I'm interested in what you generally feel are acceptable birthday celebrations, and what sort of details are involved. Ambrose's birthday is very soon, and I would like to do something for him, but I have little cultural experience with birthday parties. Spacer culture is the one I know best, but birthday celebrations past childhood are not common for them.

What would you suggest is appropriate?

Also, I would greatly appreciate help with the creation of food and drink, for those of you capable of it.
howexciting: (L’uomo colle sua congiegniate)

[personal profile] howexciting 2016-08-31 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
... it is very rare in my time to celebrate one's birthday. Unless you are a noble of some form - which Ambrose certainly is - you are expected to celebrate your saint's day instead. Nobility and royalty celebrate their birthdays and their saint's days, as a sort of display of wealth - and depending on how rich one's family, the longer the birthday celebrations can last, sometimes up to a week after their birthday.

Given that we can infinitely create food, here, we could easily celebrate Ambrose's birthday for a week, if you so desired.
howexciting: (Well actually...)

[personal profile] howexciting 2016-08-31 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, a nobleman in both senses of the word, like Ambrose, deserves as such, in my opinion.

In Catholic lands, it is the feast day of a particular saint which corresponds with the day a child is baptized. Usually the day after his or her birth, but it may take a few more days, up to a week. I was baptized the day after I was born, so I suppose my saint's day is the Feast of Sabas Stratelates.

I understand he is not Catholic, as many Travelers are not, so my take on this may be rather... skewed.
howexciting: (Releasing purchased pigeons one by one)

[personal profile] howexciting 2016-09-02 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Why not? The Winter Masque was a prolonged party similar to Carnevale. We know the Romans were very keen on parties. And week long celebrations seemed the norm at the Ivory Tower academy. [... that was after midterms, Leo.]

That is sadly all I can say about the matter. As I've said, celebrating birthdays is a Noble tradition, more or less. I've only been to others' birthday parties.
howexciting: (Looking away)

[personal profile] howexciting 2016-09-03 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
... I see. Very well, then. I shall leave it up to your judgment. Just tell me what you need when the time comes.

[He almost sounds... disappointed.]
howexciting: (More wondrous and terrible)

[personal profile] howexciting 2016-09-03 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
[The realization seems to startle him.]

No, no, there is no need for that! I am not a noble, for one thing, and my saint's day has already long passed. There is no reason to go to such trouble on my account.
howexciting: (Softly whispering their siren-song)

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[personal profile] howexciting 2016-09-04 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Because I am unworthy of the honors placed upon me. I am appreciated for what I should not be appreciated, and unappreciated for what I should. Furthermore, I have never had a birthday nor a saint's day in my life. Why should I start now?
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[personal profile] howexciting 2016-09-12 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
I, too, hardly believe in the blood of nobles making a man greater than the common folk. We all bleed the same, do we not, Daneel? But ignoring the nobility structure which is so common in my time, in my world, would be tantamount to suicide. So would ignoring the Catholic church and its Inquisition. Though I do not believe in the nobleman's cause, per se, forgive me if I continue to follow those rules for a nobleman I actually like.

[He pauses for a long moment, trying to word his thoughts, but giving up partway through and just saying this:]

By what right am I better than these humans? My deeds which are written in books, copied from other books, mistranslated by yet other books, misrepresented by even more books, or a fourth-hand account from a friend of a friend of a pupil? Or my thoughts, which no man could reasonably know as I know them, even my closest and oldest friend, which no man could reasonably understand in their entire as I understand my own mind? My thoughts which have values placed upon them I did not value, ideas placed within them I did not dream? I am not sure those are reasons to be celebrated. And I am very sure they are not reasons to be valued.
howexciting: (Tormented by visions of flight)

[personal profile] howexciting 2016-09-27 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I am wise only in that I know I am not. And kindness only comes at the price of someone else, I have learned through Traveling. What rubric could possibly judge a man, knowing this? There are too many variables to consider, too many conflicting schools of thought. Even bettering humanity through collective effort, which I have aspired to since I could conceive rational thought, is not the best rubric. What of other sentient beings? What of those who are hurt or downtrodden for the good of all others? What of secrets and lies, negative things by most standards, used for good and made to better the world around us?

[He listens very quietly and attently to Daneel's story, feeling a small sense of kinship in the descriptions of Elijah by one who knew him so well. Leonardo remains silent, even after Daneel has finished speaking, before mentally replying in a soft and somber tone, an undercurrent of self-loathing creeping its way into his thoughts.]

You talk of me as if I am spun gold, when I know I am naught but simple flax. I am flattered you see me in such a respected light, but I... cannot admit to seeing myself in that light. I do not think I change any world for the better, even the ones we have visited. In fact, I worry I have not done enough, I have not done well enough. You say I am wise and kind, but all I can see is a witless fool who once thought he was a gifted architect and engineer. Now I know that all men see me as in the future è un ritrattista dannato. How can I possibly be helping mankind with that?